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Glowing Eyes in 8 easy steps by Blackmane Glowing Eyes in 8 easy steps by Blackmane
I'm sure these are more or less totally bogus, so dont worry about telling me they arent realistic. This is how I imagine glowing eyes work, and how I paint them :3 You can see the first evidence of this technique in the painting close up of Myrorr. This tutorial was also partly made as refrence for Pyre's eye....and I was working on the image anyway- so it's also a preveiw image of the thing I'm submitting for ~Flying-Fox 's contest :D

Anyway, enjoy! all the normal copywrite bullshite, ect ect.. and if you use this, please drop a link! Nobody's dropped a link before though I'm sure people have used my tutorials, so peeps, let me know if you're using them or I may stop making them.
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ArrinKirr Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
[link]

BTW I only used four layers :P
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Blackmane Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008
Hey! That looks good, and hooray starcraft!
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ArrinKirr Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
STARCRAFT II FTW

Thanks :D
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ArrinKirr Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
Just so you know, I'm using it :D I'll link you when I'm done.
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Blackmane Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008
^^ thanks! I like seeing what people use this stuff for- lets me know I'm not painting into a vaccum ;3
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Hather Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2007
*smacks self in the forehead* Yet another thing that its completely obvious to me that I hadnt thought about till now to improve my art coloring, more layers. I will say that for a manga scene that I did a test color for, for a friend, I got up to around 50-70 layers on it all. Now I get to consider a layer for each of the individual colors and tones :D

How many different tones of a base color do you use? To clarify this, when you lay down the base color, like the dragons base scale color, how many different tones of the base color do you use? I typically use the base color and 3 lighter and 3 darker and depending on what I consider the base layer's material to be, I may include an even lighter or darker color to improve shading.

I have usually done the base color with all its shades on the same layer but this little bit of rummaging through your previous comments and replies have helped me out as much as your tutorials :D I also found and watched Nam. :giggle: I love finding artists that are better than me so I have something to compare my work to and ask myself, "What do they do that makes their art so much better?" and it helps me out quite a bit as my art has improved a lot since the first day I posted here.

Keep up the awesome work and sorry for the lengthy comment.
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Blackmane Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2007
I like lengthy comments :) I dont get to reply with them as often as I'd like (Work and school, heh :P) but I never mind them!

When I first started using photoshop I easily had around 80 layers. on a peice. I'd do things like having each part of, say, an eye laid out on separate layers. Then I realized I was spending too much time labeling/searching through layers and not using many of them again. I've found since then that fewer is better, and a good policy is to have tricky stuff or things in the foreground/background on their own layers, plus one group for the character. Generally I condense down (ctrl+e is your friend :) ) often, so my system closely resembles a "test and check" kind of activity. Whatever works on the test layers gets condensed down, but things are separate enough that I can move characters in the composition somewhat lastminute if I have to.

As for base colors, this somewhat depends on your definition of base and what style you're working in. For a realistic image in a natural setting, I will base my objects one or two very close (often dark and low saturation) colors and get most of my tonal variation from shading and highlighting. For these eyes I think I did a blue-green base (though you could argue blue-green brown due to surrounding colors) and just worked my way up to lime and then bright yellow orange through successive highlighting.

Hope that helps!
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Hather Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2007
Any replies about this kind of thing will help. I just wish it were easier to lock a base color with locked transparency that carries over to seperate layers V.V Oh well, its more work but I will have to see how my 132 layer project will turn out.
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MoonMochi02 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2006
Always wanted to know how to make the eyes glow. Thanks for the tip!! ^_^
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Vierdz Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2005  Student General Artist
Wow, this is very helpful. I'm favoriteing. :pie:
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Blackmane Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2005
^_^ thanks! Funny, I was just refrencing it out to someone.
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Vierdz Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2005  Student General Artist
lol Cool, I bet it will help them!
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sidharta Featured By Owner May 10, 2005
it doesn`t look like glowing to me ... uhm
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 10, 2005
*shrugs* I havent perfected it yet by any means
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kiohl Featured By Owner May 6, 2005   Digital Artist
100 layers?!?! DUDE you're insane!!! XD I can just imagine how HUGE your file sizes must be!! I think the most I've ever used on one image (most likely Vantid's Hunter image) is like... less than 30 for sure, probably not even 20. XD

Actually, lately I've been cutting down even more on layers. Generally I have 3-4 for the background, and like... 1 for the character. o_O XD Kit's Northern Sky had one for the gradient sky and stars, one for the moon, one for the moon's glow, one for the clouds, one for Kit's shadow, and one for Kit. ;) I guess this means I trust my background painting a lot less than I trust my character painting. =P
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
*chuckles* I explained my layer usage in the comment above, but to shorten it I basicly have all of my elements separate so I can toggle just about everything at a later stage. Like,day scene becomes a night scene, ect.
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kiohl Featured By Owner May 6, 2005   Digital Artist
Yeah, I read that, but dang, still!! XD I don't know how you stay organized. =P
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
hehe, I tend to condense down quite a bit midway through the painting. I've only not condensed once- like, for example, right now my current layer is 27 but there are only seven levels total in the layer menu- know what I mean? I guess a better way of putting it would be that I've got a layer open to contain whatever section of the painting I'm working on, and then one or two test layers that I paint on and if it's good it gets merged down, only I tend to jump around the painting and create many such groups.
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kiohl Featured By Owner May 6, 2005   Digital Artist
Ah, gotcha. ;) Okay, that's a bit more manageable then. =P

"I tend to jump around the painting"
Hehehehe, you're ADD when you paint! XD
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
lol, oh yeah ;) that's me
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Xaishi Featured By Owner May 6, 2005  Professional General Artist
Oooooooooh nice! Makes me wanna try drawing a glowing eye now too. xD 3 things bug me though... The layer is supposed to be set to multiply, right? I'm pretty sure you didn't mention how to make the green on the eye ligther like that on the left side... But that could be replicated easily enough. And finally, how opaque should the brush be? Using a layer set to multiply would kinda make the brush kinda see through though... Hrm. I could probably figure out those answers myself, but maybe if someone else is wondering that too I'll go ahead and post this.

And uh... 100 layers?? The MOST I've ever had to use would probably be less than 20... I use a layer for each color of whatever I'm drawing and that's it. o.0 Sometimes I'll combine two small colors into one layer though... Like the inside of ears and the mouth or something. But 100 layers... Yeesh. o-o
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
^^; I'm gonna have to answer each question is refrence qoute, allright? Not trying to be cold and impersonal but I think it's easist this way.

"The layer is supposed to be set to multiply, right?" Nope- I paint on normal layers
" I'm pretty sure you didn't mention how to make the green on the eye ligther like that on the left side" - It's just like skipping the first couple layers of shade and putting some of your higher level highlights on the far side of the eye.

"But that could be replicated easily enough" -That's the idea. This is more of a advanced tutorial, meaning I'm showing you roughly how I go about doing what I do and my thought process rather than showing you where to put all of your lines.

" And finally, how opaque should the brush be?" Oops, my bad ^^; I usually paint around at around 33% flow, but most of the eye's lense was dont on 100%

"Using a layer set to multiply would kinda make the brush kinda see through though... Hrm. I could probably figure out those answers myself, but maybe if someone else is wondering that too I'll go ahead and post this." Yeah, good idea to ask :3 I dont like painting on multiply because I think it's a bit of a cheap trick to limit yourself to what is veiwed as an acceptable color pallet rather than just kinda going with whatever. Also, I feel multiply muddies my colors, but that's just me. Usually I'll only use multiply layers if the whole image is painted in multiply.

"And uh... 100 layers??" That's a bit of an exxageration these days- but there was I time I painted with around that amount. I do, however, use forty or sixty. The way I paint I like to have things grouped on layers so that I can manipulate them individualy late into the painting. What I mean by this, is I'll have, say, an environmental lighting layer that is linked to the sky layer, and if later on I decide that I want a yellow sunset instead of a red one, I can adjust the color on the sky layer and have the lighting in the painting follow suit rather than having to go and re-fur an entire creature, ect. I'll also have a clump of layers that I plan to condense as I work, for example I'll put the face fur on a layer and finish it and then do the neck fur underneath that so I cannot possibly overlap the face fur- ya dig ? After I finish the neck fur, that gets merged with the face fur layer and I'll create another layer to do the next farthest down fur section. Stuff like that.

Hope that answered your questions! Sorry- I know my methods are far from traditional ^^;
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Xaishi Featured By Owner May 6, 2005  Professional General Artist
Yup, it did. Thanks. :D

Eh, my way of drawing digital pictures probably isn't too traditional either. =P
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Usstan-uil-ilythiiri Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
*makes a cool grunting noise* that-that's AMAZING!

i think i might try this sometime ^^
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
:3 It's fun
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Delvennerim Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
100 layers...yikes. And I thought I was a layer freak. My average is 15...20-30 if the project is really involved, I don't think I've ever broken 40 though.

Very nice tutorial, and I do read all of them. It's great seeing how other artists do things, I'll have to give this technique a try. XD
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
lol, dude it's bad I need to cut back. Like... man, if I had to pay like a dime per layer 0-o this is why I dont like traditional art so much...
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Delvennerim Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
lol...your file sizes must be huge...but being able to edit a layer without effecting anything else is nice.
I was inking a drawing one time, and I screwed up. I got this overwhelming urge to hit control+Z...but it wasn't there. I was sad, and started looking for white-out.
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
I know that exact feeling! >.> I'm up to 27 layers on this at the moment. Man, I cant believe Nam only uses two 0-0
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vampiremackenzie Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
Oooh. :D This is well done, I must say! But if the effect you're trying for is that of animal eyeshine.... Wellllll................... :O

Animals' eyes reflect from their pupil, mostly. You can see it quite well in this pic of mah kitteh (being as it's really big) [link] Good reference--go ahead and use it if you like. :D

I'm not sure how the reaction happens.. especially with camera flashes. I wish I knew, it's one of my biggest natural fascinations. @.@ Strange that I don't draw it, eh? :D

This glow you've illustrated looks more like... a supernatural glow--like the pupil is actually putting off light. Which is cool! Don't get me wrong! But it's not the realistic effect I think you were going for.

Constructive criticism? ^^; Not trying to offend, just tryin' to help! :D :glomp:

Oh, P.S. I have a TON of pics of the eyeshine, from pics of animals I've taken, if you want 'em for reference. :D
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DefilerWyrm Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2005
nocturnal animals have an fibrous layer of cells right below the retina called the tapetum lucidum. it's reflective, so it not only bounces light back onto the retina to help gather more light, but will reflect outside light sources back through the pupil, producing the "glowing eye" effect. :3 blue-eyed, albino, and some green-eyed animals glow red because the retina's low melanin content allows the blood vessels to show through their eyes literally "glow bloody." more melanin produces a yellow-to-green glow.

freshman biology = kickass.
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vampiremackenzie Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2005
*squeals* YAY!! I understand!! :boogie: Ooh, thanks so much. ^_^
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
I apprieciate the crit :3 I was going for a more supernatural glow because, err, ^^; I need to justify how in the nine hells pyre's/a billion other avatar's eyes glow and shed colored light on random facial features and stuff in normal daylight without even direct lighting :o-O: The theory I'm using here is having a nictating membrane like in lizards, only fused or mostly fused so that when they shut it the membrane captures light for low light situations or reflects bright light...or something. I dunno- what do you think?
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vampiremackenzie Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
Hm... When I draw glowy eyes, I just draw them. :P I guess I don't really think about HOW they glow. *thinks* I suppose I just love the idea of emotions showing through the pulsing glow of eyes. Kinda..... hmm.. Geez, I really don't know. xD I just make glowy things!! :faint:

:lmao:
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
lol, that's fine too of course- I just like to have some kinda explanation to it. This is actually based off of the dragon eye mechanics from the Draconomicon.
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vampiremackenzie Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Good. :D It's very good to understand the way something works before drawing it. :D Just like anything else... paws... ears... etc. ^^
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Yeah, I really love studying paws but they're the hardest part of a drawing for me.
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vampiremackenzie Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Me too. ;.; That and muzzle angles... and interesting poses. Argh. :P Art is not easy. xD
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Yeah, not to mention it's underappreciated in the real world too :P My school principle, teachers, governor, classmates, ect dont give a flying fuck about art.
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DragonEyzs Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
WOW....too cool. Thanks for sharing the technique! Great job!! :clap:
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
Glad you liked it! ^_^ I'm hoping it'll help some people out
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hbrika Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
Good grief thats cool :) You have more layers for eyes than I do in some of my pictures :p
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
hehe, I've toned it down ^^; I probably use about one hundred layers per image
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hbrika Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
I try to keep it at 4 or 5 but a few go ballistic

A hundred?!?! What kind of kick ass machine do you have?
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Athlon 3000+ 2.16 GHz, 1gig of DDR ram, Radeon 9800 pro. Homebrew,yo :headbang:
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hbrika Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
Hey so my laptop should be able to do it then ;) I only have 512 MB of DDR ram :p though
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Nambroth Featured By Owner May 5, 2005  Professional General Artist
LOL Whoa! I usually have... two XD
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 5, 2005
*big puppy eyes* but I rike rayers!
I know I gotta cut down, but man it's a pain when I draw over something I shouldent :P
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Nambroth Featured By Owner May 5, 2005  Professional General Artist
Nah, do what best suits you! :}
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Blackmane Featured By Owner May 6, 2005
*chuckles* I'm amazed you survive on two. I'm starting to think you arent human 0-o

"Legend has it that on one day Nambroth, the mighty art goddess fell from the sky to paint stuff upon this world....." ect :lol:
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